Skip to main content

Andrei Rodionenko - Mustafina, Ablyazin and the judging in Antwerp - Lupita translates



Lupita translates this interview with Andrei Rodionenko.

Aliya Mustafina calculating Anna Rodionova's beam D value in Sunday's beam final
Andrei Rodionenko, standing in the bus that left the arena after Mustafinaā€™s victory on beam, said that the Worlds in Belgium had not been a success.  Itā€™s a good thing when the head coach judges himself uncompromisingly.  I myself donā€™t think it was a failure.

Some of the disappointments - Aliya not winning gold on bars, or Olympic medalist Ablyazin not making any final - have an interesting subtext. There are things that should rather be understood now. Itā€™s better to correct them now, because repenting after Rio will be too late.

- Andrei Fyodorovich, as you were leaving the arena, you said laconically that ā€œNelli Kim has behaved aggressivelyā€.  Out of the inquiries submitted, ours was ignored and the American complaint was accepted. Was Nelli Kim behind that, like three years ago in Rotterdam?

-  I would like to avoid blaming people. It leads nowhere. We should look for agreement. Of course, itā€™s difficult to understand why one countryā€™s protest is taken and why the other is ignored. By the way, during the beam final the Americans submitted not one inquiry, but two! They also tried to challenge Simone Bilesā€™ score! [ed ā€“ as well as Kyla Ross]. Yet, I donā€™t think mutual recriminations are the right way to go. I believe in dialogue in order to suppress the existing flaws or failures (letā€™s call them this).

- Are these failures?

- Sure.  As far as I am concerned, we need an accurate classification of elements. Like in Mendeleyevā€™s Periodic Table, or in diving.  Is creating a table with the value of each one of the elements so complicated a task?  Give me this table; give it to the judges, the gymnasts, the coaches, the audience. Complaints, inquiries will disappear. Mustafina has been working on the Shaposhnikova with a 1/1 turn for six months.  But this element has been judged like the Shaposhnikova with Ā½ turn that she performed in London.  Aliya has improved a lot since then. She put so much effort into that. But this doesnā€™t give her any bonus. Why?  They answer that we have to perform the element, and later theyā€™ll see, and theyā€™ll include it in the highest category (of elements). In such situations, both gymnasts and coaches work blindly. They master new complex tricks that donā€™t bring along any result.

- Does risk make sense?

-Itā€™s not interesting without risk. In womenā€™s gymnastics in Belgium, only China and Russia have shown something new. The rest, including the US, havenā€™t progressed. Itā€™s true that the Americans win. But they donā€™t surprise. Every year they do the same. On the other hand, China ā€¦ I think they deserve respect. They have brought a completely new team. Without aiming at medals, China came to test their gymnasts in the conditions of the new Code of Points. Even if the girls were of dubious age ā€¦

- Yes, one of them looked 11, no older ā€¦

- Yes, she had baby teeth (smiles) ... But they performed new routines. One Chinese gymnast, Lin Shaopan, shared gold with Uchimura. He was so relaxed, smiling, he fell, so what? The results were not important to him. He is a young all-arounder who won at the Chinese Championships. He made mistakes, but nobody considered this a disaster. Itā€™s something normal. This is 2013! This is the first important competition on the road to Rio. Nothing else.

- You are vanquished ā€¦

- They want medals right now, more and more medals ā€¦ Although, by the way, we fulfilled the medal plan we had privately established for ourselves.

- Andrei Fyodorovich, I heard some people blaming the Universiade participation ā€¦ In Kazan I saw Fabian Hambuechen. He lost to Kuksenkov and said that he was too old for the all around. In Belgium he won a medal.

- Hambuechen only performed well on two events at the Universiade. He was not ready then. But he trained for Antwerp. Fabianā€™s example is not very good for another reason. The German gymnast has been performing the same routines for a few years. He made practically no mistakes. But, as I said, we have different goals. We want to make progress. I was talking here to the judges. Itā€™s important to understand their approach, their criteria. Not everything is clear. For instance, equipment testing was carried out in a surprising way.  We had not been properly informed and were surprised, including Aliya ā€¦

- Can Aliya be surprised by something?

- Of course, she is a human being. Mustafina has her own way of warming up. She doesnā€™t like to train her routines 100% during warm up.  She preserves herself for the most important moments. She is not used to that. She was called for equipment testing.  Can you imagine?  She is not used to that.  They gave her a score and, later, during the whole competition, the details of her routine were stored in the computer. We were surprised when in the all around Mustafina performed better on beam than in qualifications, and got the same score. From the start the judges had worked it out.  Later they remembered this test routine, which normally everyone ignored, and were unable to put aside their first impressions.  There was something weird about the bars.  In the warm-up gym they were not on the podium, and their ā€˜behaviourā€™ is totally different on the floor. Before the finals, Aliya didnā€™t warm up.

- Andrei Fyodorovich, could you explain what happened to Ablyazin?

- Denis was outraged, we were all outraged ā€¦ Itā€™s the first time that he has failed his dismount from rings ā€“ double layout with double twist ā€¦

- Denis failed on his three eventsā€¦

- I can explain this. Ablyazin has a fantastic technical level. He has always had problems in focussing himself. Denis is temperamental. Recently I told him: ā€œMy friend, I know what to do with you. Before the competition we have to take you to the arena and have you perform on all apparatus at a 200% level so that your level of performance will be 100%ā€.

Editorā€™s note: we are not completely sure what Rodionenko means by ā€˜equipment testingā€™ in this interview; sometimes he refers to it only as ā€˜testingā€™. 

Comments

  1. I think "equipment testing" is what we'd call "podium training" in English, judging by the context

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, but there is a Russian word for this which he repeatedly doesn't use. And I don't think Aliya would be surprised by podium training. We think it might have something to do with the testing of the judges' computer system, which explains what he then goes on to say about the practice score being stored in the computer. But we are not sure. It is unclear

      Delete
    2. Well, I need to know what that phrase "equipment testing" means! Please Queen, keep us updated :)!

      Delete
    3. My guess is the equipment testing is related to testing the computer stored memory of an routine. And my other guess is that Aliya was pick for testing that equipment is the sense of testing the whole routine with her full D score. Remember the he said that Aliya is not use in doing whole routine in warm-up.

      Delete
  2. It's an intriguing mystery that might never be solved :-)

    ReplyDelete
  3. The longer the Rodionenkoā€™s are involved in Russian Gymnastics the more hurt is going to happen to the team's preparation for Rio

    ReplyDelete
  4. I felt so terrible for Denis Ablyazin - he really is in the top 3 in the world in vault and floor (and not far from it on rings) in terms of sheer ability, but he's always let down by his focus. He could have done better in previous competitions, but this is the first time that he's really collapsed ... I'm glad I'm not Semy having to deal with that emotional fallout!

    ReplyDelete
  5. The caption for this photo is incorrect... Aliya was calculating her own D score, not Rodionova's.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Cece, why? A close up of this picture shows the total to match Rodionova's D score, not her own ... More information please.

      Delete
    2. I was watching a broadcast of the EF at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px-U4jcjBAI when this part came up at 17:54, Rodionova hadn't even performed yet but it was after Aliya's enquiry was rejected. It had something to do with that I think.

      Delete

Post a Comment

Popular posts from this blog

ā€˜My daughter likes gymnastics. For us, this is the big successā€™. Aliya Mustafina talks to Match TV

Via VK.com.  Google translate A big interview with Aliya Mustafina was published on MATCH!. We provide a small excerpt below, and the full version is available on the website at the link below  ā“ Aliya, you are now the head coach of the junior artistic gymnastics team. What does your typical day look like? šŸ’œ My current life is similar to what it was when I was competing. In the morning, I have breakfast and go to work by 9:00, we train for four hours, have lunch, rest and train for another three hours. During the training camp, the athletes live at the base. They live and train on the same territory. ā“ Do you manage the gymnasts' personal trainers or do you evenly distribute the responsibilities? šŸ’œ We work in contact with the personal trainers, I listen to their opinions. For example, if the trainer believes that their athlete needs to be given a little rest or do fewer repetitions of a particular exercise, we do so. ā“ Describe the current generation of children. Do they nee...

Russian Gymnastics Federation withdraws AIN athletes from competition

 An official announcement, via VK.  Google translate. Official statement of the Russian Gymnastics Federation All Russian athletes representing artistic and rhythmic gymnastics, who received "neutral status", decided to refrain from participating in the upcoming competitions under the auspices of the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG). The reason for this decision is the numerous unfounded and biased refusals of the FIG special committee to allow our gymnasts to compete. The Russian Gymnastics Federation respects and shares the position of the athletes. President of the Russian Gymnastics Federation Oleg Belozerov: "I respect the athletes' decision and understand what it is dictated by. At our meeting on March 10, Mr. Watanabe said that "I would like to use all my strength to once again think about the role of sport in this world. Sport should unite and give friendship, it should not be a tool for increasing hatred. The rights of every person must be resp...

Simone and the others - results and reflections

In the end, it was as predicted : Simone and the others, with Simone's teammate, Alexandra Raisman, providing the back up.  I do not need to point out that, by definition, the Americans are scoring significantly higher marks than the rest of the field.  Congratulations to them! Aliya Mustafina finished in third place.  The 2012 bronze medalist led the competition after vault and uneven bars, but had a very nervous outing on beam that might have taken a less experienced gymnast out of the medals.  A bravura performance on floor brought Aliya back though to confirm her third place all around.  From her senior debut in 2010 to today, Mustafina has continuously set high standards of grace.    It is the first time since 2000 that a gymnast (Amanar) has medalled in the all around at two consecutive Olympics, and  if Aliya can medal on Saturday's uneven bars final, she will once again be Russia's biggest medal winner of the women's gymnastics.  Russ...

RRG Archive - scroll by date, from 2024 to 2010

Show more