Lovely montage from Maria Kharenkova for World Champions in the uneven bars, Daria Spiridonova and Viktoria Komova. Molodyets! You were the champions of beauty!
In view of Nelli Kim's recent interview , Lupita and I thought it timely to revisit the performance of some of the WTC President's judges over past competitions ... this article from 27th August 2012 is reposted here, as a reminder. You will find a link to the FIG's newly published book of results at the Olympic Games here . This year, they have broken down the judge's execution scores so you can see exactly how each judge evaluated the gymnasts' performances. It makes for interesting reading - if only I had more time to analyse each judge's marking. A skim reading already highlights multiple inconsistencies in individual judges' marks and makes you wonder why they bother with the jury at all. I have taken the time to look at the reference judges' scores for the top four in the women's all around. The FIG explains here what their role is, and how they are selected. I even used my calculator, which is a risky thing in my hands. M
Congrats to Komova, spiridonova for the gold medals
ReplyDeletewhat happened in UB final is a laugh, as the judges can no longer differentiate between the gymnasts' routines in terms of executions and it means that they have reached to unprecedented level of incompetence ... Nellie Kim should go and NOW
John
I am happy for both. What a great day for Russia, gold medals on two event finals. However, not to take away from a good day for Russia, but Komova deserved the gold. She should have had the highest E score of the four.
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Please explain how Komova and Kocian had the same E-score?
ReplyDeleteMaybe because Kocian had many leg separations and Komova not?LOL
Deleteit's a festival: gold for every one, even who doesn't deserve it ...
John
Komova had bent arms on the releases. Bent legs every times she had giants. Half turn before dismount wasn't on handstand. And sadly, she was attempting layout jaeger and failed, judges gave piked jaeger and deduction on E-Score for body position not piked enough.
Deletethe only explanation: the world is not just
Delete@cts sam, about which routine are you talking about? and the judges told you that or it is just your ideas?
Deletethe same cliche I hear talking about her "handstands" which is perfect for me by the way, while they don't comment on the Americans' gymnasts handstands and legs and landings and fluidity which are things they lack very badly.
John
Maybe it was her "russian tap" before the pike katchev and before the dismount, that's already 0.6 in deductions, but anyway she delivered the most beautiful and fluid routine.
DeleteAs they say: not all gymnast are ballerinas. Even though Kocian cannot keep her legs together and has flexed feet , she deserves huge scores because it is her way to be artÃstic. LOL
ReplyDeleteAmong all the judges who produced these score on UB final, I want to know the scores of Oksana OMELIANCHYK!!
ReplyDeleteJohn
What is wrong with you people? Why can't you be happy for once? For you watchers in front of computers and televisions it is cheating if Russians doesn't win gold or heavens forbid them sharing glory with anyone else.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Sheesh. Just congratulate all four and be happy for Vika and Daria.
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Agree with the other anon: why can't y'all be happy? The gymnasts seemed beyond thrilled for each other and themselves. Also, if you truly think Komova alone should have won then you wouldn't be singling out Kocian. May I remind you there are two other gold medalist? Yet you only care about the American... Good job to all the winners.
ReplyDeletewe will be happy for the deserved one, and we are talking about the execution here they got so obviously the other two got lower that Komova and Kocian, amd that is why we singling out Kocain, I thought it is simple and plain like that
ReplyDeleteJohn
there's a statistic that religious people are happier than atheists. I wonder what the statistic is for russian/usa stans. seems to me one group is positive and the other is always trying to find ways to drown in its own sympathy and misery.
ReplyDeleteIf the gymnastics that USA represents stands for the positive and happy group, then no thanks I would stick with the Russian misery...
ReplyDeleteJohn
1 Gold for viktoria, 2 Gold for the other two, and USA may be fourth
ReplyDeleteThe Maximum score for each apparatus, why is it NOT equal????
If Zimone near 16 at FX, then the maximum of UB should also near 16, NOT only 15.4, VERY VERY Bias for this era of judge !!!!
I was curious about that point you just raised there. There is no doubt that Simone is a wonderful technician on floor and deserves her very high marks on floor. Her floor routine in the event final had very little deductions other thsn a couple of hops back after her tumbles. But was this not the case with Viktoria komova's uneven bars set in the event final ? Yet her execution was nowhere near as high as Simone's. Anybody know why ? Do you think it's bias ? Or is this something to do with her comments about the Americans ? It does seem rather unlikely but I did wonder ...
ReplyDeleteIn fact the Judges had no problem giving Douglas almost 9.0 Execution on Bars (in Team final) but they had a real problem giving it to Komova or Spiridinova ...
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