Such a lot is said about artistry these days - but you don't really see much evidence of it in the gymnastics. There are flashing moments of brilliance that some people enjoy - for example, a gymnast like Brazil's Flavia Saraiva is a favourite for her spirited and expressive floor and beam. Others might prefer the structured work of a gymnast like Kyla Ross. For me, though, the idea of consummate artistry has been lost almost totally - the last time I saw anything like it was in 2012 when Komova performed her floor so brilliantly in the all around final. But without a mechanism to reward artistry - something that is absent from this Code of Points - there really isn't much point even trying any more.
Aliya Mustafina was
interviewed recently while on holiday in Italy and expressed the opinion that artistry was something that was inborn, rather than trained. She uses a metaphor to describe this - some gymnasts have five gears, not four, and the ability to express and perform comes with that fifth gear that not all gymnasts have. I was a bit disappointed by this idea, coming from the most recent 'Queen' in a dynasty of great gymnastics expression, but perhaps it just stems from a pragmatic acceptance that gymnastics is no longer the whole package that it once was.
I can't really explain why this must be so, other than that the Code's structure of deducting 'execution' errors provides a natural tendency to reward those who avoid mistakes rather than take the sport into that extra dimension. When artistry takes centre stage, people begin to speak of 'toe point' and 'line' as if that were the whole shabang, and use 'choreography' as a term to describe the composition of a floor routine ... but that is to confuse execution with artistry and to assume that artistry is visible only on floor, that choreography is only about the dance.
There is no excuse really for the lack of artistry in the sport at the moment. People might moot the idea that the content of routines is now so difficult that gymnasts don't 'have time' to prepare and incorporate it into their routines, as if it is an add-on or an afterthought. The truth is that artistry was never something that came last. It was always totally integrated within the form, composition and technique of gymnastics. Some gymnasts did have that 'extra gear' that Aliya speaks about, but a minimum standard of artistry was achieved because the Code encouraged it and the training was structured with it in mind.
Mind you, Aliya's explanation does stem very firmly from convictions about gymnastics that are based in a pragmatic acceptance of the rules of the sport today. It's not as if athletes, coaches or even judges have much time to reflect on this, or even as if their opinions are really taken into account. Naturally, in sport gold medals are more highly valued than questioning the status quo, and even the Russians have dropped artistry from their considerations. Mustafina, Komova, Afanasyeva all have artistry to offer, but it tends to fall on deaf ears as far as their marks are concerned. It's not really surprising that as far as they are concerned, their talent for performance is something optional, rather than essential. It is also a pity, though, to see the Russian tradition thwarted in this manner. I was interested to see this
short news piece which includes extracts of ballet, rhythmic gymnastics and artistic gymnastics and which includes interviews with Larissa Latynina and Aliya Mustafina.
My guess is that we are reaching the peak of the current trend towards acrobatics and power in the sport. I do not see gymnastics ever reverting to its past glories in this respect, but I do think that at some point there will need to be a change in direction, and the sport will need to recognise its special artistic nature. Ice skating is one example where changes have been made to the method of marking to incorporate aesthetic considerations. It is also true to say that artistry can be found in other aspects of the sport today. I do think that Simone Biles is so extreme as to present a form of artistry in her powerful acrobatics. Energy and strength pervades her every move. But Simone is unique; I do not see others coming forward with her talents.
The recent European Youth Olympic Games gave us a chance to look at two young Russian gymnasts. Sadly, live streaming of the competition was rather sparse, but you will find some videos on the
RGF Youtube account. Daria Skrypnik, from Krasnodar, was the stand-out gymnast, taking home three gold medals with her and minor medals on all of the other finals. Her team mate, Anastasia Ilyankova, from Siberia, is currently a bars specialist, but has a lot to offer elsewhere, too, especially on beam where she qualified for the final. She helped the team to a gold and took bronze in the all around and bars finals. The RGF has published some fantastic picture galleries of the competitions on its website, and I was fascinated to compare some of the gymnastics of these two gymnasts. As ever, I should note that there are limitations in the analysis of photographs as so much depends on the precise millisecond in which the picture was taken.
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Anastalia Ilyankova shows tremendous split in this leap, and the hands are perfectly aligned with the arms. But she is rather stiff around the shoulder line in this view. |
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Anastasia trains in Leninsk-Kuznetsk. Her puckish movements on floor remind me of Maria Filatova, who trained in the same gymnasium. In this shot, however, she isn't showing maximum amplitude. |
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Great balance and expression |
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The current Code robs floor routines of their originality by excessive requirements and by valuing dance for its technical difficulty rather than for its aesthetic. Nevertheless, the balance of this pose shows exquisite attention to detail, with the hands mirroring the direction of the movement. |
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The willowy Skrypnik doesn't have the power and strength of Ilyankova, but attempts to show artistry by using her length to create shapes. Are the hands in the right position here, though? The socks don't enhance the overall impression ... |
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A great example of whole body expression - the clenched right hand is consistent with the attitude of this flowing movement. |
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Yet again, great expression from Skypnik, whose downcast eyes join the focus of this outward movement with the right foot. What about the hands, though? |
Komova lost the olympics because of her mistake on vault. What should change in the code of points is the unfair advantage good vaulters enjoy right now because of the fact that only one element is required to be performed. However, i don't know how the FIG would accomplish this. Maybe the gymnasts should perform two vaults like in event finals. If soo that would bring simones score down to about a 15.5 which would be on par with the best bar specialists out there.
ReplyDeletethe "artistry" you speak of is still fairly present in my opinion. Just look at who has been wining medals at worlds. Kyla, larissa, aliya the chinese. And like you said Simone is the exception without simone Kyla and larissa would have been all around champions. Remember what happened with mckayla skinner and aliya on floor?
What they should do on vault is lower the start vaules by one point, like they did in men's, and if you don't watch MAG, lemme tell you. That solved ALLOT of issues, so who knows maybe this is the way to go.
DeleteGood vaulters earn it because they work hard to be that great in that apparatus. The Americans are strong because they work hard a lot and keeps on upgrading. With that said, gymnastics is a sport that keeps on moving forward and therefore, athletes should work and train hard too if they want to score higher. I think, all members of the team should be able to perform in all the events and not to encourage a specialist. European Games for example. Members of the team should do all events which gymnastics is all about.
DeleteThank you for breaking down the still pictures and analyzing body shape and form. It is difficult to know what a person means when she uses the word "artistry." You are demonstrating what you mean by "artistry" in your critiques. You mean extension, and alignment, and a unity of expression when selling a movement. Fair enough. However, in 2012, Vika Komova had very claw-like hands and tight shoulders. I don't see how you find her "artistic" by your analysis given above.
ReplyDeleteI'm not demonstrating what I consider to be artistry.
DeleteIt is not possible to analyse artistry by analysis of static pictures, all on floor, but they can provoke discussion.
This is only the thousandth time you've written this article. Any way it's obvious what it takes to be artistic. Whiteness and the type of body that society accepts as feminine. Aliya is slighty less robotic than Kyla and the only reason they are considered artististic is because they posses the "artistic" look, they have "lines" mhm...
ReplyDeleteWell it must be the thousandth time you have read it then :-)
DeleteArtistry is obvious when you see it - and it does not depend on being white! If 'artistic' requires inverted commas then that just serves to underline its wooliness, which is what makes it less than obvious. If it were obvious what 'artistry' is, then the Code would be capable of judging it better.
I appreciate that you are being sarcastic here - but please do not assume that your assumptions are mine.
Haaaaa Elizabeth I love the pictures that illustrate what artistry is. You are either writing this blog as a satire on the gym trolls. Or you're on peyote. Either way im fascinated by it. Keep up the work.
DeleteHaaaa Anonymous where does it say that the pictures 'demonstrate artistry'?
DeleteIt would be so nice if people bothered reading before posting.
Hey Ho ... Off to pick a cactus.
Sorry, but Jade Patisson from France IS black and she CAN dance, so stop saying the artistry is based on the colour of skin ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqrBkgmeReU thanks nanouille05 :P ) ! Then, about the body shape, I personnaly tend to prefer "balerina body type" but i also enjoyed sandra izbasa in 2012 when she had developed hips and mature look (same for Ponor) Simone is also a unique floor performer !
DeleteArtistry is definitely fading fast in the world of gymnastics. I suppose the emphasis on difficulty would not be so infuriating if the exercises that are executed properly were scored significantly higher than those with horrendous execution (cough cough Skinner). Not only does this encourage dangerous gymnastics, but it is heartbreaking to see girls who cannot even reach proper split position (don't tell me you can throw an incredibly difficult vault but cant complete a full split cough cough Skinner) not only making it onto a Worlds team, but medal. This is the reason why I personally dislike the American attitude towards gymnastics. It has become all about the money and the endorsements and is quickly losing my respect.
ReplyDeleteAnother frustrating tidbit is that throughout this quad, as we have seen difficult gymnastics overshadow beautiful gymnastics, the American response to their lack of artistry has always been "oh well the code doesn't call for artistry" or "her pose pose pose pose choreo is full of smiles so that's artistic" or "Artistry deductions are so slim that she still would have won", and shortly after the Euro Games, several American blogs were full of comments criticizing the Russians for their lack of artistry, even though they are playing the code game by focusing on upgrading their difficulty, not to mention it's early for routines to be perfect. Such a double standard. I don't care if a gymnast isn't particularly graceful or expressive, but if they can't do so much as point their toes and the other BASICS of gymnastics (basically everyone besides the Russians and dome of the Chinese girls), I find it painful to watch the routine.
Beautiful photos and great analysis of them. Lately I've been a little disappointed by the floor exercises that the Russian gymnasts have been performing.When i watch the routines I sometimes feel almost bored by the complete lack of emotion they show and the listless way they perform the routines. Is this to do with uninspiring choreography or lack of conditioning ? Do you think that in Rio they will bring out new routines with fresh choreography ?
ReplyDeleteIf can recommend a book to you: Vladimir Zaglada's, How the Fall of the Iron Curtain Changed the World of Gymnastics. An excerpt:
ReplyDelete"There is no doubt in my mind that the success of Russian gymnastics has always been closely tied to Russia's choreographic tradition. I do not know of a single gymnastics school, even in the most remote backwater, that did not have a professional choreographer on duty. It didn't matter whether boys or girls were being trained-the choreographer was considered an indispensable member of the staff.
It is important to understand just how important dance is for gymnastics and for the basic preparation of girls in particular. When we work on elements of posture, we use, for example, handstands as a special aspect of training to strengthen the muscles of the gymnasts's shoulder girdle, the back, and the abdomen. But we also try not to forget to strengthen the lower segments of the gymnast's body, developing just as powerful a corset of muscles.
Once this has all been achieved you would think that the process is complete and and we are ready to put this well-developed musculoskeletal to the test. But this testing does not go before we realize something is missing. We have a powerful body and strong elastic muscles, but the gymnast moves like a robot, and even performing the incredible tricks, she cannot control her movements. And the femininity that is nature's gift to the "weaker" sex seems to be completely missing!
For the entirety of their gymnastics career, choreography will enrich their sense of movement and and enable them to cultivate the artistry that will give them a higher purpose to all those well developed muscles."
My blog is http://russianseason.blogspot.com/
BTW do you think Emily Gaskins is artistic? She's a fan favorite! I love her 2013/14 and her new 2015 routine. See here: /watch?v=Jh-MsvsqNtA
What do you think of her routine?
Hi Anonymous, Great blog! Keep it up.
DeleteVladimir's book is fantastic and has featured on this blog regularly. He also contributes from time to time. His book on FX is a classic too.
I do not generally comment on individual floor routines unless I think they illustrate a particular phenomenon in gymnastics, but Emily's work is nice. What do you think? How do her qualities translate on vault, bars and beam? Do you see artistry there, too?
This is one of my favourites - http://youtu.be/oQHa0Lee2OM - to me, toe point, leg line, shoulder line, the position of the head - these are all fundamental and every gymnast should aspire to that. What makes this FX special to me is the way it works as a whole, coalescent with the music, dramatic at times, making use of the pauses, and reflecting the modern interpretation of this classical piece with unique dance as well as echoes of the ballet tradition. The tumbles punctuate the routine rather than interrupting the flow but there is never a point at which you feel the routine is rushed.
DeleteYou don't really notice Tatiana's extension, flexibility etc as despite the angular shapes she creates, there is a softness and economy of line during all the transitions. There is very little static posing, the work flows seamlessly. Her leaps soar through the air weightlessly.
In today's gymnastics, there is an emphasis on accuracy and the performance of 'dance' as difficulty, and there are so many deductions that this emphasis on crispness upsets the flow of the work and renders it all but impossible to 'tell a story' or interpret a theme. The full meaning of terms like 'expression' and 'choreography' has become lost in the quest for tangible measurables, considered necessary to make the Code 'objective' and fair. I think 'objectivity' is overrated and not essential for fairness. Judges no longer judge, they calculate. This is the wrong approach entirely for an artistic sport.
To defend some of the comments, or rather to explain the differences in perception we see, my observations are made as someone who has been reading, writing, discussing, watching gymnastics for the last 43 years. So when I say the sport has changed for the worse and has been robbed of its artistic tradition, I am speaking longer term than most people who subscribe to this blog will remember. I also have an academic background in cultural and heritage studies and an interest in Russian and Soviet sporting cultural tradition. So I am painting on a canvas that already has some fairly distinctive sketches on it, pictures that many people who read this blog won't have a grasp if, simply because they haven't read enough or been alive long enough.
Here's another example of artistry that I love - http://youtu.be/5UxBSwaXjKA
DeletePosted by Anonymous (sorry, I hit the wrong button and deleted by mistake but it is an interesting post so I copied it from the email) :
DeleteThanks for the words of encouragement! It's a scary new venture for me so I hope i can remain consistent about blogging twice a week.
On Emily, she was such a gem last year; her lines, carriage, and extension were notable on all events, though admittedly her swing on bars was, and still is, unfortunately labored. Since then, she's had a slew of gym changes, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing from her work with Steve Nunno, Shannon Miller's coach. This was the beam mount that made her famous at 0:25: /watch?v=HC9tl6iMI4k and THIS MUNDANE MONSTROSITY is her new beam mount (/watch?v=S6Sai6z5beI). Why are they taking the originality out of her program one apparatus at a time? She had so much beautiful work on FX and BB last year and I feel like they're worried that such a "delicate" artistic girl needs to lose some of her artistry if she is to "make space" for the required difficulty. What I had liked about Emily was that she didn't try to keep artistry and difficulty in a balance act, she just blended them so well together that one didn't outdo the other. No more though. I'm having horrible flashbacks to 2011 when Grishina was still using her famous 2010 fx but they had taken out all of the choreography and it was just an arm waving shell of its former self.
About Emily's mount - that is an interesting point. Did you see this luve, though? Is it possible that the TV production team simply cut to the routine a little late, missing the handstand at the beginning?
DeleteVery interesting post. Seems strange to me that a gymnast can get a gold medal on beam with a high difficulty score even if there are long pauses and major wobbles and balance checks.
ReplyDeleteBut then, I remember Nadia Comaneci's 1976 Olympic beam routine. Now that was pure artistry!
And that's a really very interesting point. I would agree that the rhythm and technique shown in Nadia's beam amounted to artistry - also the composition - I lived the sequence of back flips and the double twistng dismount.
DeleteBut at the time Nadia was seen as a technical gymnast, rather than artistic ...
Love this article, keep up the great work! :)
ReplyDeleteI tend to disagree with Aliya - I believe artistry is something that CAN be taught. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not you're perceived as a good dancer. Artistry is like a beautiful painting or a series of gorgeous notes in a classical music piece. If it speaks to you and looks lovely, that's artistic. It's not necessarily the difference between, for example, Aly Raisman's choreography or Ksenia Afanasyeva's. Personally, I find many parts of Aly's new floor routine very artistic.
I think that artistry definitely isn't disappearing but rather changing if that makes sense. Nowadays you need difficulty to succeed obviously but where it changes are the fast pace movements that gymnasts do like Iordache or little hand movements like Afan. What everyone here is saying is that artistry is going away but it's just the definition your own disappearing IMO. Everyone has there own definition of what artistry is whether it depends on the size, the movements, how static the gymnast is, whether they pose, so on...
ReplyDeleteQueen Elizabeth, thank you so much. I became a gym fan about four years ago and you blog has really helped me appreciate the finer parts gymnastics and artistry.
ReplyDeleteHere is what I find a good recent example of a consummate artistic performance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoMP-m7r5To). Perhaps there are times where Lieke's shoulder line and amplitude could use a little work, as well as some minor execution issues, but in general her carriage, and particularly her expression are great and she combines them with well performed dance skills seamlessly in a way that compliments the music. Her few tumbles are performed almost flawlessly and seem effortless. Holistically the routine has a nice flow from the beginning to the end and captivates the audience.
Hello QE
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if you could make a post about the Russia girls to look out for the next quad. Like the elite juniors that are not eligible for this quad and we dont hear about. I was told that they are investing a lot on them, considering this quad junior to senior transition turned out to be a bit of a disaster with none of the new seniors really showing good results and Russia basically still relying on the seniors from the past quad. Also, heard lots of the younger juniors already have elite routines, specially on floor they have strong girls like Alexandra Schekoldina. I would like to keep an eye on those girls but I dont know who look out for.
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Hello, it is a really nice idea, but I do not really know anything about the Russian juniors any more, and their pathway to senior can also be very erratic. Try the blog Videos of a Russian Gymnastics http://russiangymnastvideos.blogspot.co.uk
Deletewho will take over you website when you can't any longer?
ReplyDeleteHmph. Queens are immortal. Don't worry about such things, child.
Deletelol but i do haha a good queen must always be prepared. she must have an heir! I would be so lost with out your immense knowledge on this subject.
DeleteThe artistry comes from the execution of the gymnastic skills. Dance and music have nothing to do with the artistry in artistic gymnastics. They're merely a tradition dating back to the time when the initial female gymnasts weren't powerful enough to perform any tumbling of substance and so did dance to music instead.
ReplyDeleteI always laugh at the complaints about the lack of "expression" or "lack of emotion". How ridiculous would this Sport be if judges deducted for "expression"?
Who's seen shots of a gymnasts face whilst they're flying through the air doing a big skill? It's not a good look but it's expressive. Do they get a deduction or bonus for having barred teeth, pierced eyes, scrunched up skin and wild hair?
It's always interesting to note that these complaints seem to be restricted entirely to WAG Floor. What about MAG? What about bars or vault? I'm curious to know how you can be emotionally expressive in a bar routine or when vaulting? Do you want to add music to the other apparatus to add more artistry? Why not do a creative waltz down the vault runway with a smile instead of a robotic sprint with ugly flailing arms and a look of desperation on the face? That's pretty much what people are suggesting.
'Expression' isn't facial :-). That's a really funny idea of yours. It is more of a mood, the tempo of the work, the use of shapes, the balance and harmony of the movement. Men's gymnastics can be very artistic - I have discussed this on the blog previously.
DeleteI've never heard the history explained in such a way before. Of course there have been transitions and progress in the difficulty although I am not convinced the changes are always progress. If execution = artistry then many of the top gymnasts have lost sight of artistry. But surely the point is a combination of difficulty and expression or arrtistry is what makes gymnastics. Gymnasts in the 80s were performing both compulsories and optionals including moves that aren't matched in difficulty today, but with amazing artistry. Oh and the 90s. Good execution - and form - is basic to the sport, that isn't arrtistry. And what on earth is the point of all that flailing about unless it's something beautiful and expressive?
I think we need a rethink ...
http://askalfonggymnastics.blogspot.com.tr/2014/10/armine-barutyans-presentation-to.html
ReplyDeleteSome people still strive for artistry
Russia can beat the US in Rio if Biles gets injured.
ReplyDeleteI would prefer Biles to stay healthy.
DeleteWe are in the era of political correctness, so it's no strange to see gymnastic correctness too ...
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Do you disapprove the Saraiva's style? :(
ReplyDeleteNot at all. I think she is lovely, one of the best.
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