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Insomnia and uncertainty - drama or crisis in Russian women'sgymnastics?


It is 4 am in London, and I am awake, thinking about the uncertainties and worries of the previous 24 hours.  Primary amongst them is one that I live mostly vicariously, through the voice of this blog.   The sad result of yesterday's competition has disturbed my peace of mind and there are nothing but questions.
  • Can Mustafina find once again the form that saw her win the 2010 World Championships, the zest that led her to win gold at the London Olympics, the genius that saw her grab gold from the ashes of the Antwerp World Championships in 2013? 
  • Can Russian women's gymnastics find its feet once again? 
  • Was Alexandrov's fiery, reluctant resignation the end for the team?

For the last four years, I have followed the fortunes of Russian senior gymnastics, as closely as I can, blog by blog. It hasn't always been easy to find the thread, to follow the reasoning of these charismatic, volatile and often illogical people.  A large part of the emotional energy in maintaining the blog has been put into constant questioning of the political situation surrounding the coaches, and in particular the coaching of the women's team.  

Following the emergence of tensions between the two Rodionenkos, Andrei and Valentina, and the women's team coach, Alexander Alexandrov - well, it was difficult not to take sides.  To put it plainly, Alexandrov's case was so much stronger and clearer than that of the Rodionenkos that there just didn't seem to be much argument at all to support the Rodionenkos.  Alexandrov's interview with this blog was so comprehensive it left little room for the Head Coaches to wriggle out of their rather uncomfortable position.  The entire 'gymternet' community railed against Valentina for some of her clumsier statements, but the gymternet does not decide who will be head coach, or how the gymnasts will be trained.  So despite the strength of argument, and Alexandrov's connections at the Ministry of Sport, the Rodionenkos have still held fast in their positions.  There is still little real reason to believe that their long tenure at the top of Russian gymnastics is at risk to this day.

Latterly, I have preferred to take a back seat, to try to remain neutral.  Part of the problem has been Andrei Rodionenko's stolid silence on the situation; by avoiding defending himself expressly, he has cleverly avoided stepping into the pile of contumely that has increasingly surrounded Alexandrov; his stealth and subtlety at quiet odds with the blunt defensiveness of his outspoken wife.  Recently, one of Rodionenko's allies - a coach who spoke out against Alexandrov at the infamous press conference orchestrated by Rodionenko where the basis of Alexandrov's demotion was laid out - elaborated on circumstances surrounding her gymnast Paseka's selection for the Olympic team.  More of the jigsaw seemed to fall into place.

A problem, though, is that Russian gossip is far more intriguing than the British kind, seems to be almost a way of life and often bears little relationship to the reality of events (except of course, the brutality of the exit route Alexandrov was forced to take, the clear unhappiness etched on the face of Mustafina yesterday, and so on).  Social media has made it accessible to the Western world in a way that hasn't been possible before.  For the blogger and gym fan alike there are intricate problems involved in unravelling what is essentially the natural expressiveness and sensitivity of the 'Russian soul' laid bare to Western eyes (principally, in this case, mine).  You could write a book about it. 

Further rumblings that team spirit had become a problem under Alexandrov - that the girls' nerves were constantly on edge - in light of the happy, almost light-hearted spirit amongst the team now presenting itself in Nanning - seemed to confirm that the light was shining on the other side of the story.  Rodionenko had repeatedly absolved himself of any responsibility for the injury rate of his women's team and, given the world situation of injury left, right and centre, and the historic lack of strength in depth on his team, his claims seemed to have some validity.

However, since the beginning of these Championships, a trio of highly influential women have spoken out, pointing out the weaknesses of the WAG team's performance in Nanning and overall since the Olympics.  You will recognise the names of two of these women - Svetlana Khorkina and Larissa Latynina.  The third should be well known to those who follow this blog carefully - Elena Vaitsekhovskaya.  She is a leading sports journalist in the field of ice skating and gymnastics in particular and is unique amongst Russian journalists in having presented Alexandrov's story in the Russian press.  I believe her to be close to Alexandrov.  Private sources also lead me to speculate that the tide is turning.  Perhaps change is on the way.

So I am up at the ungodly hour of 4 am to bring to you some vital reading on Russian gymnastics, with many thanks to Lauren Cammenga, who has provided the translations from the article by Vaitsekhovskaya, and to Nico whose post on Gymfever woke me up.  Vaitsekhovskaya is particularly interesting because what she implies is that Russia hasn't really made any progress since Alexandrov left.  The benefit of their pre-Olympics training has now expired.  Their time is out, in other words.  No personal criticism of Mustafina is intended - it is all about the coaching.

Elena Vaitsekhovskaya

- Says that she remembers a conversation with Alexandrov, a long time ago.  It was, he said, the most difficult thing, for a gymnast to decide whether to continue with a career, or to finish.  If you continue, everything that was past had to be left behind, and the effort had to begin anew, from scratch.  A gymnast can't continue without being fully dedicated to finding a new level of complexity and physical fitness; the old level that won the first gold medals will only carry a gymnast through for one year, or a maximum of two.

- Doubts the reasons cited by the Russians for Aliya's failure in the all around final.  Alexandrov was right, she says : she does not think that Mustafina has made any actual progress in the two years since London and contends that Mustafina won all of her medals in 2013-2014 on sheer force of will.  In the All Around final she saw what she believes is Mustafina's lessening ability to win medals by the skin of her teeth, to turn determination into medals.  Can Mustafina continue to win medals over the coming years?  She thinks not, because her difficulty level hasn't increased; also because she has failed to win medals at this World Championships.

- Thinks that Mustafina near won Russia's team bronze single-handedly, and she does not agree with Valentina that it was worth as much as gold, because the Chinese and Romanians were so weak that Russian should have been able to beat them easily.  The team final did not bring forward a single performance by a Russian woman that made her gasp, or that demonstrated a new level of complexity.

-  Does not agree that the men's result was a failure, given that two gymnasts are still recovering from surgery, and Denis Ablyazin is seriously injured.  She says that despite the result, the performance was good.

-  Calls into question whether Russia's veterans will ever return.  Thinks a team with Mustafina and Komova would be able to achieve a lot but doubts whether it will happen when a comeback by Komova after a two year absence is almost inconceivable.  She is also not sure whether Mustafina will be around much longer.

-  Says it is worrying that for the last two years Russian gymnastics has survived on the back of one gymnast; and that they have got rid of the only coach who has ever achieved his stated goal (Alexandrov).
'I believe that our gymnasts did not have any stamina, self-confidence.  I must say that even I was very worried last night for all of us. I am very sorry for the completely stupid mistakes that have affected the result of the original.'

On the selection of the team, the absence of Afanasyeva and Komova due to injury, she said : 'So, it's time to leave, perhaps?  We had injuries in our time - we kept them to ourselves, not for the public.'
Larissa Latynina

Andrei Rodionenko was 'fundamentally wrong' in his assertion that gymnasts' injuries were not the reasponsibility of the coach.  Most injuries took place during training.  'Usually an attentive coach will see in advance that an athlete is tired or that she has some problems. Therefore, it seems to me that such a large number of injuries is the result of including errors in the preparation. I did not go to "Round Lake" and did not see how the guys and girls were preparing for the Championships, so I can only judge by what I see as a result.'

She went on to suggest that the gymnasts needed to work with psychologists - in her time, this role was fulfilled by the personal coach, who worked closely with the gymnasts.

As I write this, Denis Ablyazin is competing in the men's floor final - and may win a gold medal.  Russian gymnastics is ever in motion ... and always intriguing.

Further reading

Undesirable Alexandrov - Elena Vaitsekhovskaya's commentary post 2012

Alexander Alexandrov in his own words - Part 1 of 4

Nelli Kim - Russian gymnastics has closed in on itself

'Maria - A Victory on the apparatus' Interview with coach Maria Ulyankina in which she discusses the circumstances surrounding Maria Paseka's training and selection for the 2012 Olympics http://m.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/746932

Comments

  1. Gold to Russia's Men's Team!!! Hurray, Denis finally got what he totally deserved

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  2. Happy for Denis but the crisis in women is too much: overscores, depressed, bad mood... The Rodionenkos have to let the team now but who will coach the girls? That's the other problem.

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  3. I think the Rodienkos were fundamentally wrong about the Alexandrov. They have always been fundamentally wrong about the physical preparation of gymnasts.

    In the end, Khorkhina, Nelli Kim, Latinyna..eles are fundamentally right ..

    Honestly, I do not believe in medals for Russia in the Olympics in Rio in 2016.

    However, when the Russian Federation will wake up and professionally assess Rodienkos? I believe that only then will a resounding failure in Rio.

    I feel bad seeing Aliya compete and looking miserable physically, while girls of the USA were only smiles, health and shining eyes. Mustafina is my favorite gym and she does not deserve what they are doing with her.

    Before you fight for more art in gymnastics, Russia should not "close in upon itself" and leave the old political pettiness of the USSR.

    China and Romania are no better than Russia and this medal is not the same thing as a gold medal.

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  4. Anyway, I think that Aliya's preparation towards Worlds was affected by her ankle's injury...at Euros she could not upgrade, obviously, because she flet pain, but she was the rock of the team, she was needed at least on three events, and she could not take any break. After Euros, she had surgery, so I suppose she couldn't train immediately at her best. I agree that Alexandrov is a better coach and knew how to managr her strenght and stamina - for an example, I rembember that he made her withdraw the floor final at 2013 Euros, in order to preserve her leg (and all those who say "upgrade upgrade upgrade" should remember the big injury she suffered)- but, in my opinion, it's not completely true that she didn't upgrade from London. I mean, in London she was stronger etc, but if we consider 2013 Worlds, her bars routine had a good D-score (6.7 if she hit it without breaking the series of flights from high bar to low bar) and beam was definitely better than tha one she used to perform in London. This year, even with the ankle injury, she upgraded beam (standing arabian and many D skills which she tries to connect, and if she it them the D-score is pretty high) and floor is upgraded, 'cause she try to hit her triple Y turn (which I'm going to call MUSTAFINA, I don't care a bit of the FIG non-sense rule) and a Gomez. It's not true that she didn't upgrade;but she upgraded the events that her team needs the most, becuase they're teammates are weaker on beam and floor, while bars is historically a good event for Russian girls (and Spiridonova's bronze is the proof).

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  5. I think all this agitation about the results of Mustafina is a little bit too much. I completely agree with everything said about the problems of the women's team. They are weak, they lack the difficulty and - for me personally - also the creativity, at least on floor. Almost all the gymnasts have the same passes, the same moves... It's just nothing special. For me, they definitely have to change something, also regarding all the injured gymnasts they have. I think Russia just doesn't have the depth of for example the USA - there they have a lot of strong gymnasts and the sport is booming there. But even without the depth they could make more of the talent they have and I agree with everyone who critiques the psychological appearance of the team.

    However, concerning Mustafina I think you have to remember that this year, she was injured and had surgery. It might not have been a bad injury, but it certainly affected her ability to train and especially to add new elements to her routines. Furthermore she is still 4th in the world, with a fall. Everyone has a bad competition one time, you can't always win - and this year, there were just 3 other girls who were better.
    And on bars she just didn't have the difficulty. She improved beam a lot this year and tried to work on improving her floor despite being injured. Also, it is only 2014 and there are still 2 years left till the Olympics and if she is healthy and wants to continue in the sport, she still has time to upgrade. No matter what her choice will be, if she stops the sport, becomes an event specialist or continues in the all around, she will always be a great gymnast with huge accomplishments under her belt. Like the others who commented here, I just hope the Rodionenkos won't ruin her..

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  6. Mustafina is still the gymnast to beat everyone admires her and is interested in what she is doing. Look at the execution scores even on the uneven bar finals. Kramarenko who was considered a wild card did excellent in qualifications except for the fall in finals. They need a second contender for medals to take the pressure of Aliya on every apparatus.The top 9 AA gymnast still has two Americans , two Russians, 1 Romanian. People are to quick to give a gymnast a tag as inconsistent , last year that was said from Iordache. Compared to last year the Russian has improved where is was just Rodionova and Mustafina making finals.

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  7. Thank you your Majesty, well said.

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  8. Khorkina's words are painful but exhaustive and honest ...

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    1. As Alexandrov, Latinyna, Elena Vaitsekhovskaya, Nelli Kim....

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  9. I am happy for Sprididinova's bronze on bars; Russia needs its young gymnast to win medals. However, very sad for Mustafina. She is sick and every champion has a bad worlds.

    However, I really think these results are very much related to the coaching problems in Russia. Last year Afanseyeva and Grishina were so good at Euros, but then not ready for Worlds. Mustafina looked better last month in the Russian champs. Komova had a competitive beam set early this year. Why do they look better early in the season and then look tired, sick, and injured by worlds championships? Timing is one issue. Another issue is just the overall stamina and conditioning of the gymnast. The American always look physically strong, confident compared to Russians. Compare their muscle tone and you can see the difference. I really hope this is a wake-up call for the Russian gymnastics and they make some changes.

    BTW - I also couldn't sleep over this! lol. I still have hope for Musty for beam and floor for at least one medal, any color at this point.

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    1. No, lets not go down to that road of the American gymnasts having better muscles because if gymnasts like Larisa Iordache can have good tumbling, then I'm sure the Russians can do that too. It is more about conditioning than gaining more muscular mass.

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    2. Good physical preparation, proper training and muscle trainning prevent injuries.

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  10. This is not just about Mustafina. Mustafina actually did incredibly well given that she was injured most of this year. She is psychologically strong, though. She has a very competitive spirit. I think that when people are talking about the crisis of Russia WAG, they are talking about Mustafina having to carry the team. They are talking about Komova being injured for 2 years straight and still not fit to compete. Afan injured for most of the last year. I realize Russia does not have the depth of the US, but compare even to GB or Italy or Australia. They also all lack depth but really don't have the problems Russia does. Yes, they have nervous mistakes and need to upgrade D scores but een those times don't appear to be exhausted and psychologically weak. Even though Romania is incredibly weak right now as well, they still did not look unfit or unprepared. They just made nervous mistakes.

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  11. I believe they should give Mustafina all of the 2015 competitive season off. Regardless of what Aliya wants. I think if they really preserve her for the Olympics like they did for London she could very well come out the most decorated gymnast again. Regardless of whatever happens in the future, Aliya is one of the most talented and accomplished gymnasts of all time and that is something to be very proud of. Also if they give her the next year off, the rest of the team will have to step up in order to fill her shoes and I think that would be great for them.

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  12. Let me start by saying that I love Aliya's gymnastics and the fire that she brings to the Russian team; however, this past year I don't think we've seen that from her. Didn't the Rodionenkos have to convince Aliya to come back after last year? I thought it was said she wanted to retire and that was part of the reason for her extended holiday. I'd love for Alexandrov to be wrong about her, but I had the same doubts about her wanting to make the push for another four years. I'm hoping that she's been ill since the qualification round because she looked a lot better then. It's been said that she hasn't looked right physically since the qualification round, excessive coughing and looking more pale. .

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  13. The rodionenkos didn't convince her to come back. She took a month to prepare her exams and then decided to go back to the gym. SHe is 20, she is not a child!

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  14. [quote]'I believe that our gymnasts did not have any stamina, self-confidence. I must say that even I was very worried last night for all of us. I am very sorry for the completely stupid mistakes that have affected the result of the original.'

    On the selection of the team, the absence of Afanasyeva and Komova due to injury, she said : 'So, it's time to leave, perhaps? We had injuries in our time - we kept them to ourselves, not for the public.'[/quote]

    So straightforward Svetlana which I love that. I agree, if Komova and Afan can't shake the injury, especially Komova who has had so many, maybe it might be time to leave. Komova has been out for 2 years, Afan for a little more than a year, it will be difficult to come back, they can try. I am hoping they can come back; however, if they aren't able to come back, then retirement can be an option because they need to be concentrating on those gymnasts who are there, than waiting on those who are constantly injured.

    I also agree with Svetlana that stamina is an issue. They don't look like gymnasts who are in tip-top shape. They might look good early in the season and then at the end when it is really time to crunch, they aren't that well. Injuries can play a part in that. They need to figure how to keep them relatively healthy! they get injured at the most inopportune times.

    I am fine with Aliya's 4th place or even if she doesn't medal, nothing wrong with it, she has been carrying this team for so long. She can't medal all the time. I will always be a fan. She will have to increase her difficult esp on bars next year but she is fine. What she needs is rest as well, so I hope no European 2015 for her. The others need to step up and also see how they can perform without her. Too much dependency on one gymnast can be a burden (for the gymnast) after a while.

    I don't think any of the criticism are at Aliya but at the system. I am happy for that because it will put the spotlight on the Rodienkos finally,the Head coach always gets the blame, now it is time to look at the deeper issue.

    I disagree with Elena about the men's team. They were disappointing, they had 2 gymnasts coming from surgery? doesn't the men team have more depth than the women? they should. Plus the men have been disappointing at the huge events especially worlds/olympics for a while. I think that was their first European men title for a long time when they got it this year. They do well in the early part of the season and then collapse when it matters most.

    Something needs to change, but I am sure nothing will until after 2016 unfortunately. Russia needs gymnasts who have the will and determination.

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